so at places like perkins or bob evans where they ask you to pay at the till do you give seperate to the server or at the tillOriginally Posted by sammibabe
so at places like perkins or bob evans where they ask you to pay at the till do you give seperate to the server or at the till
We have a tot up of our spend and leave it on the table; if there is an easier way of doing it I'd appreciate it!
If the wait staff are being attentive they should always be able to be found easily so we just give it to the person who has served us the most, that way you can also thank them personally which goes a long way to making the job more rewarding (I used to work in one albeit only Sats. when younger and remember that appreciation is always important), whether it is the Golden Corral or a higher price restaurant. The tax system doesnt help with the Employers being able to offset some of the "minimum wage" they pay (I think offhand it's something like 25/30% they can deduct as being made up with tips and the Employees get taxed as though they had earnt that much regarless of whether the Employer has a good enough set up to ensure that they do receive at least that much.
Babblin Boo
We were told by a waiter who worked at one of the chains that they get automatically taxed 8% of whatever bills they have dealt with. That means that if you don't leave a tip for whatever reason, they will be charged 8% of your bill in any case, so if you leave 10%, they will only receive 2%. That is why for the most part, service is pretty reasonable or they would be out of pocket. It sometimes is not the fault of the waiting staff if the food is poorly turned out, but they suffer the consequences. That is one of the reasons that they get paid a very low wage as they are expected to get income from the tips.
There are quite a lot of bartenders in USA who work for tips only and there are plenty of people who want a job as a bartender. It can be extremely lucrative in a popular bar.
We actually pay our waitresses and bar staff £8.50 per hour which is way above the minimum wage. They don't have to rely on tips but realise if they give good service, it is often rewarded - funnily enough not by our USA visitors[msnwink]
Sandra
I think that is what should happen Sandra, if the Staff are paid a decent wage they have incentive to give good service all the time as they want to keep their job, and anything over and above is then a proper bonus and not making up a shortfall.
Babblin Boo
It's a bit swings and roundabouts this though isn't it-if the industry suddenly started to pay higher rates they would put their prices up so the nett effect to the customer would be nil
Personally I would prefer for places to put their prices up to cover a proper salary for staff and then I would feel as though any tip I gave was actually for good service rather than because it was expected.
What??? and end up with the shoddy service we have in the UK, no incentive to put some effort in at all.
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I think that's a good point - my very clear impression on my many visits to the US is that the quality of service is directly proportionate to the expectation of a monetary reward. Where there isn't a reward on offer, the service is much less impressive (such as on airlines and immigration/customs officials).
When I travel to Asia, I find the service to be superior to anywhere else in the world including the US (and many times more sincere) yet tips aren't generally expected - their incentive is the self-satisfaction of providing good service. It's rather sad that that attitude isn't widespread elsewhere.
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