Visa refused

[Debz-L-]

Hi All

At the moment can any of you tell me who actually checks to see if all the YES/NO questions on the Waiver form have been answered truthfully?

For instince if I had been passed a prison sentence of 6 years (not that I have !!) then ticked "no" on all the boxes how do immigration know that I have lied?

Im just back, had a ball[8D]

[blott]

If we knew that for sure, no-one would ever have to tell the truth would they? That's a very sensitive secret to which only the US Immigration authorities would know the answer.

However, as a general principle of life as a whole, it's always better to tell the truth than not in my experience - otherwise sometimes the truth comes out to bite you on the bum when you're least expecting it so it's much easier to be honest up front and then you have no worries.

Glad you had a good time.

[Robert5988]

<blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:At the moment can any of you tell me who actually checks to see if all the YES/NO questions on the Waiver form have been answered truthfully?

For instince if I had been passed a prison sentence of 6 years (not that I have !!) then ticked "no" on all the boxes how do immigration know that I have lied?[/quote]If that is a serious question, nobody knows the answer.

You may get away with it - you may not.

Immigration may have been alerted before you arrive - they may not. Don't forget that all details of passengers are sent in advance to the USA these days.

[Debz-L-]

Could not agree more !!

Was just curious (or nosey[msntongue])

[Debz-L-]

<blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:Originally posted by Robert5988
<blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:At the moment can any of you tell me who actually checks to see if all the YES/NO questions on the Waiver form have been answered truthfully?

For instince if I had been passed a prison sentence of 6 years (not that I have !!) then ticked "no" on all the boxes how do immigration know that I have lied?
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If that is a serious question, nobody knows the answer.

You may get away with it - you may not.

Immigration may have been alerted before you arrive - they may not. Don't forget that all details of passengers are sent in advance to the USA these days.




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Yeah ok, I am only asking a question.......................Good job my partner and I are squeeky clean, with not as much as a penalty point on our driving licences aint it[msneek]

[chrizzy100]

There was a topic on a hotal forum a bit ago about a woman out shopping and came back to her hotel to find her husband deported because he lied...she was very upset...she had no idea where he was..
Someone said that there are on going checks so if you are found out you could be deported at any time...they had from what i remember been in FL a good few days...

[Sniff]

<blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:Originally posted by Robert5988

Immigration may have been alerted before you arrive - they may not. Don't forget that all details of passengers are sent in advance to the USA these days.
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Many details of passengers are sent in advance to the USA. But details of prison sentences are not part of that info - the airlines have no way of knowing that information, and no way of obtaining it.

It's possible they do random spot checks, but even that I find difficult to believe. For the USA Govt to contact UK Govt and get details on any convictions for a particular individual would I am sure (given the incompetence of most governmental organisations) take weeks if not months - by which time you'd be long gone.

I think it's much more likely that answers to these questions are only ever scrutinised if you are arrested in the USA for some other offence. Then they probably drag out all your immigration forms and check, just to see if they can construct a slightly bigger book to throw at you :-)

[Robert5988]

<blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:Many details of passengers are sent in advance to the USA. But details of prison sentences are not part of that info - the airlines have no way of knowing that information, and no way of obtaining it.

It's possible they do random spot checks, but even that I find difficult to believe. For the USA Govt to contact UK Govt and get details on any convictions for a particular individual would I am sure (given the incompetence of most governmental organisations) take weeks if not months - by which time you'd be long gone.
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Good Lord, I wasn't implying that any details, other than those the passengers themselves provide, would be sent ahead.

Likewise I suspect that they don't even carry out random checks, but they might have 'intelligence' on certain individuals. A case in point was Cat Stevens(don't know his new name)

[Sniff]

<blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:Originally posted by Robert5988
<blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:Many details of passengers are sent in advance to the USA. But details of prison sentences are not part of that info - the airlines have no way of knowing that information, and no way of obtaining it.

It's possible they do random spot checks, but even that I find difficult to believe. For the USA Govt to contact UK Govt and get details on any convictions for a particular individual would I am sure (given the incompetence of most governmental organisations) take weeks if not months - by which time you'd be long gone.
[/quote]

Good Lord, I wasn't implying that any details, other than those the passengers themselves provide, would be sent ahead.

Likewise I suspect that they don't even carry out random checks, but they might have 'intelligence' on certain individuals. A case in point was Cat Stevens(don't know his new name)


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Hi Robert. No, I didn't think you were implying that, but I just thought I'd clarify the situation for those people who like to believe in Big Brother

I think you're right about pinpointing certain individuals, but for the 'average' traveller there's absolutely nothing to worry about.

BTW, it's Yusuf Islam

[florida4sun]

This were stuff gets blown out of context and becomes and urban myth. This has nothing to with 'holiday makers', but is about a retired reason who lied about his involvement with Nazis in the war. He was deported. But this is making his way into travels as 'holiday maker deported'.

It would be prudent to get original facts and not a version of a version that has been passed around the internet.

<blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:Originally posted by chrizzy100
There was a topic on a hotal forum a bit ago about a woman out shopping and came back to her hotel to find her husband deported because he lied...she was very upset...she had no idea where he was..
Someone said that there are on going checks so if you are found out you could be deported at any time...they had from what i remember been in FL a good few days...


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