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    <blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:Originally posted by Robert5988
    You unequivocally gave the reason for anorak’s flight being cancelled as being not full; [/quote]Read my post carefully. I said it is easier to consolidate multiple shorthaul flights than single longhaul flights (which is true). Then I go on to say that Anorak's flight has clearly been consolidated with a later flight (which is true). Whether one is the cause of the other, no-one here can say, and I didn't say it.

    <blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:when you don’t even know her dates[/quote]Neither do you, but you felt able to tell Anorak that BA2486 doesn't operate in Dec from 1st - 28th

    <blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:Some of those 28 re-scheduled flights could have had a very high load factor. The frequent flyer forums are full of threads about routes with high load factors having flights cancelled; the AA MAN - BOS route I mentioned above is but one example - and I have that personally from the 'horse's mouth'.[/quote]Yes they could, but I'm willing to bet BA would not cancel 28 highly loaded flights without a very extreme (and therefore very unusual) reason. Whether you agree or not, poor load factors are the most likely explanation of these cancellations.

    <blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:My point was that there a multitude of reasons why BA would re-schedule flights and that is up to the Operations Manager. I believe that is not the remit of your organisation.[/quote]Correct, I never said otherwise

    <blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:Your explanation was a possibility, you might even believe it a probability, but it ain’t a certainty – and it was that certainty in your remarks I was questioning[/quote]It is a probability - the number one reason for cancelling flights 4 months in advance is that the seats are not selling. Again, I never said it was a certainty, but the most likely explanation of these cancellations is poor load factors.

    <blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:I also wonder why you mentioned that it costs exactly the same for short haul aircraft to take off from Heathrow as long haul aircraft- which is true(£135 I believe) but not relevant[/quote]I mentioned this because Anorak questioned "Why would BA bother cancelling such a cheap flight to operate?" and referring to them as "relatively local flights". I merely pointed out that the cost of operating a flight has very little to do with the distance it is travelling, and is unlikely to be much of a factor in any cancellation decision.

    However, clearly ([msnwink]) none of us know the real reasons for any flight cancellations, so perhaps we should end this discussion
    Keith


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    Keith.
    Believe me I read your post very carefully before replying.

    Firstly what you wrote was:

    <blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:this is clearly what they have done with your booking...cancelled the earlier empty flight and consolidated it with the evening flight.(my bold)
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    Unless you have any other semantic wriggling to come up with, that unequivocally states anorak’s flight was empty.

    Secondly, Anorak stated her morning flight was in December and had been cancelled. BA have re-scheduled their flights and looking at that schedule on BA.com the sole morning LGW – BCN flight(BA2486) is not operating from 1st – 28th Dec.

    So you are quite correct I certainly “felt able to tell anorak that BA2486 doesn’t operate in Dec from 1st – 28th” Indeed that is exactly what I did. It seems to me that was factual and relevant. Have I missed something???

    Well certainty is giving way to probability - but you are not quite there yet


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    <blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:Originally posted by Robert5988
    Keith.
    Believe me I read your post very carefully before replying.

    Firstly what you wrote was:

    <blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:this is clearly what they have done with your booking...cancelled the earlier empty flight and consolidated it with the evening flight.(my bold)
    [/quote]
    Unless you have any other semantic wriggling to come up with, that unequivocally states anorak’s flight was empty.

    Secondly, Anorak stated her morning flight was in December and had been cancelled. BA have re-scheduled their flights and looking at that schedule on BA.com the sole morning LGW – BCN flight(BA2486) is not operating from 1st – 28th Dec.

    So you are quite correct I certainly “felt able to tell anorak that BA2486 doesn’t operate in Dec from 1st – 28th” Indeed that is exactly what I did. It seems to me that was factual and relevant. Have I missed something???

    Well certainty is giving way to probability - but you are not quite there yet

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    Robert, you win. I tried to give Anorak the benefit of my experience, but I had not counted on the anal nit-picking that would encourage. In future I will preface all my posts with a disclaimer that I cannot guarantee the accuracy of my answer.
    Keith


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    <blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:In future I will preface all my posts with a disclaimer that I cannot guarantee the accuracy of my answer.[/quote]

    That would be perfect!


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    I'd suggest calling BA to find the answer to why they've postponed but my recent experience with them tells me they'll give the answer that leaves them the least exposed to a claim for compensation. The only certain thing is that BA will have had only their own interests in mind.



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