Not confirmed yet but I'm hearing that American Airlines Manchester to Miami winter service won't be returning this year. I've used it a few times (most recently in March) and it was often only about two thirds full in economy and almost empty in Business.
Another failed attempt by a scheduled airline to challenge Virgin's Manchester to Florida service. Shame really, but they don't seem to be able to make money on these routes.
That's a shame[msnsad]
I do feel though that they need to put a bigger aircraft on the route if they want to compete.
They also need to advertise more too[msnwink]
That would be a downer. It actually works out cheaper with American to fly MAN-MIA-MCO than MAN-MIA and then drive 200 miles.
Regards, Mark
<blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:Originally posted by Mach 2
That's a shame[msnsad]
I do feel though that they need to put a bigger aircraft on the route if they want to compete.
They also need to advertise more too[msnwink]
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They were operating a 763 on the route Julie but it seemed half empty on the times I used it.
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<blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:Originally posted by Mach 2
That's a shame[msnsad]
I do feel though that they need to put a bigger aircraft on the route if they want to compete.
They also need to advertise more too[msnwink]
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They were operating a 763 on the route Julie but it seemed half empty on the times I used it.
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Maybe a lack of advertising then? [msnsmile]
I'm sure advertising is a factor but my understanding is that AA were looking to tap into the winter Carribean cruise business from the north of England by offering direct Miami flights. What they have discovered is that most cruise passengers book packages so they don't select (and probably don't care) who carries them transatlantic.
Ironically, if the cancellation of the route does occur, I think the next step will be the extending of the 757 Manchester-Boston route to a year round service. In contrast, that has been a significant success for AA.
<blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:Originally posted by Katys Grandad
I'm sure advertising is a factor but my understanding is that AA were looking to tap into the winter Carribean cruise business from the north of England by offering direct Miami flights. What they have discovered is that most cruise passengers book packages so they don't select (and probably don't care) who carries them transatlantic.
Ironically, if the cancellation of the route does occur, I think the next step will be the extending of the 757 Manchester-Boston route to a year round service. In contrast, that has been a significant success for AA.
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I would use the Boston route if it was a 767 or bigger[msnwink]
A friend of mine is using this route in October[msnwink]
<blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:I do feel though that they need to put a bigger aircraft on the route if they want to compete.[/quote]
If they can't fill a 763, why a bigger aircraft? a 777?
We have had this discussion before about a single aisle(757) aircraft on transatlantic services.(as indeed the Concorde was!!!!) Manchester - Boston is not much further than East to West coast USA and the 757 is the workhorse on many of these routes.
The Man-Bos AA 757 service is heavily loaded and I always select that if available; even if it is slightly more expensive than the daily Manchester - Chicago service on a 763(767). The trip to Boston is usually 6.5 hours out and 6 hours back.
I think that the problem with Miami is that it doesn't have good links to the rest of the USA(excluding Florida and Carribean)whereas Boston and Chicago are far better and arriving at lunchtime makes it easy for onward travel.
Be interesting to see if the seasonal Glasgow - Chicago(763) and Boston - Dublin(757) flights survive.
With airlines under financial pressure we can expect to have more transatlantic services on, lower cost to operate 757s, where they have the range and the loading doesn't justify a larger aircraft.
<blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:Originally posted by Robert5988
<blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:I do feel though that they need to put a bigger aircraft on the route if they want to compete.[/quote]
If they can't fill a 763, why a bigger aircraft? a 777?
We have had this discussion before about a single aisle(757) aircraft on transatlantic services.(as indeed the Concorde was!!!!) Manchester - Boston is not much further than East to West coast USA and the 757 is the workhorse on many of these routes.
The Man-Bos AA 757 service is heavily loaded and I always select that if available; even if it is slightly more expensive than the daily Manchester - Chicago service on a 763(767). The trip to Boston is usually 6.5 hours out and 6 hours back.
I think that the problem with Miami is that it doesn't have good links to the rest of the USA(excluding Florida and Carribean)whereas Boston and Chicago are far better and arriving at lunchtime makes it easy for onward travel.
Be interesting to see if the seasonal Glasgow - Chicago(763) and Boston - Dublin(757) flights survive.
With airlines under financial pressure we can expect to have more transatlantic services on, lower cost to operate 757s, where they have the range and the loading doesn't justify a larger aircraft.
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Yes Robert you always point out that Concorde had single aisle, but one very BIG difference it only took on average 2 hours and 55 mins!!!!!! Not bad in a single aisle eh[msnwink] A 757 as you pointed out takes 6-6.5 hours[msnscared][msneek][msnwink]
The route has disappeared from the AA site this weekend. Looks like confirmation of the bad news.
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