Having a child in the US

[wiljohn]

<blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:Originally posted by esprit
The child would be a US citizen. He would have dual British nationality because he is born of British parents, you would need to apply for a British passport for him if you were going home for good. He can sponsor his parents for a green card.... when he reaches 21 years old!!. So having a child in the US does not help your visa situation at all in the short term, I know a couple of people here on E2 with American born kids, kids are American, parents still on E2.
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When child reaches 21 they can sponsor parents, but "support" would be the crucial word here, without meeting certain criteria your childs US status wont guarantee a green card.

[Nostromo]

<blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:Originally posted by blott
<blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:Originally posted by E. Cosgrove
No midwives to do the work for free!! [/quote]Don't UK midwives get a salary then? [msnoo][msnwink]
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Not nearly enough considering the degree of responsibility and workload. Am I right, Liz?

[Robert5988]

<blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:"To hopefully forestall some responses to the last paragraph I re-iterate that I am giving an opinion. Quoting what some ‘jobsworth’ immigration officer reputedly said does not override the regulations. Neither does a ‘personal’ interpretation of what the regulations really mean, but don’t say."

Robert,
aswell as the Birtish mentality of seeing the disadvantages and inherently playing by the rules, I think you can now add our fear of offending anyone on the internet by stating an observation or opinion. We all seem to preface any comments with a disclaimer so nobody takes it the wrong way!
I see where you are coming from with the retirement issue and ongoing funds but the situation Esprit is in I just cannot understand; not why shes done it but why there is no progression to Green Card even if it was after a number of years just prove your committment and the ongoing investment.
So much for the "Special Relationship." I think it is very telling when she says most ordinary Americans are "totally aghast."

andrew
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Andrew,
I couldn’t agree more about Esprit’s situation; it really is nonsensical. I have British relatives who have lived in the USA for many years. They entered when to get a green card was a mere formality; even though they had no special skills. All that was needed was for their employer to sponsor them. Getting US citizenship was not difficult either.

When I explain to my US friends the current immigration difficulties they are also aghast – particularly when it appears so easy for some groups. There is a certain irony that the USA have become the most prosperous nation on earth on the back on the most liberal immigration policy in history.

Thank goodness I have no desire to live permanently in the USA.

I also take your point about prefacing comments. In my defence, in this case, it was to pre-empt arguments on the Visa Waiver scheme.

However back to the original subject of “having a child(born) in the USA”. Whether on a Visa or Visa Waiver, it strikes me that it is a great way of getting your child dual citizenship.

To have a baby at child bearing age might achieve the objective of enabling someone to retire in the USA – albeit 21+ years later!!!

Robert

[flyrr100]

Good luck finding an airline that'll take you across the pond in your 9th month!

[Robert5988]

<blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:Good luck finding an airline that'll take you across the pond in your 9th month![/quote]

I did say "Whether on a Visa or Visa Waiver". You can easily get a 6 month visitor's Visa, and the Visa Waiver lasts 3 months.

It wouldn't be difficult if you wanted to have the baby in the USA.

[chrizzy100]

<blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:Originally posted by flyrr100
Good luck finding an airline that'll take you across the pond in your 9th month!
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I thought they were unhappy to let you fly after your 6th month.....

If you are expecting maybe your visa will only be stamped for a few weeks....I'm sure they know people may try to get a US passport for their child that way.....its no help anyway......people here with H1B visas have been sent home.....American born kids too.....you'll have to wait until they are old enough to come back...which could be 15 or 20 years........

[Robert5988]

<blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:I thought they were unhappy to let you fly after your 6th month.....
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Chrizzy,
You just might not tell them that you were pregnant!!! and if you were a few months they might not ask!!

"Are you pregnant Madam?" - "No I am a little overweight!!"

If you read the earlier posts the idea was not to stay in America but to get the child dual nationality!

Robert

[chrizzy100]

<blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:Originally posted by Robert5988
<blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:I thought they were unhappy to let you fly after your 6th month.....
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Chrizzy,
You just might not tell them that you were pregnant!!! and if you were a few months they might not ask!!

"Are you pregnant Madam?" - "No I am a little overweight!!"

If you read the earlier posts the idea was not to stay in America but to get the child dual nationality!

Robert
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I'm sure you can't travel in the last few weeks....and if you don't tell your travel Ins company you are expecting...then you will give birth in the streets....you could say you don't know.....but they will ask for your doctors records from England.....Ins companies don't like paying out......I don't think its worth putting the life of a child in danger just to get it duel nationality......

[ajay83]

Is there no-one or no group E2 holders could lobby to, to try and make people see sense? Surely any political group that brings in that law will be voted for for eternity by E2 visa holders!! I'd even vote for Bush if he changed the law to allow E2 to lead to green card one day! Now Bush is in for another 4 years and won't have to worry about fighting anymore election battles would he be not more open to new ideas or just common sense from people like E2 holders?

[steph_goodrum]

"Is there no-one or no group E2 holders could lobby to, to try and make people see sense? Surely any political group that brings in that law will be voted for for eternity by E2 visa holders!! I'd even vote for Bush if he changed the law to allow E2 to lead to green card one day! Now Bush is in for another 4 years and won't have to worry about fighting anymore election battles would he be not more open to new ideas or just common sense from people like E2 holders"

Since E2 holders have no right to vote Ajay, Bush nor any other politician is likely to want to waste their time lobbying on their behalf. they'd much rather use it for groups that might actually keep them in power eg the Mexican illegals who are very grateful at being able to get the right to amnesty and live there legally.