View Full Version : New Apple Macs!!
Is this the end for Windows Boring PC's?
Yes of course...
Here's a live feed from Mac Expo where Steve Jobs CEO Apple computer announces latest releases from Apple:
R sensor. Apple Remote.
10:33 am
Demoing the new MacBook Pro.
10:33 am
iSight Camera.
10:32 am
15.4inch LCD. bright as cinemas.
10:32 am
Hair thinner than the 17'.
10:32 am
Fastest notebook ever.
10:31 am
4-5x faster.
10:31 am
2 processors in every Macbook pro.
10:31 am
No more Powerbook. Intel duo Core.
10:30 am
New laptop computer.
10:30 am
Today - MacBook Pro
10:30 am
But power consuption. Now discussing Peformance per Watt.
10:29 am
Showing a Powerbook G4. Trying to shoehorn a G5 into the Powerbook. We've done everyhing possible...
10:29 am
'One More Thing...'
10:28 am
'For years intel chips have been bored in a PC'
10:28 am
'Intel Chip will be Set Free' (Mac Ad)
10:27 am
Showing a new Ad.
10:27 am
All products will be transitioning through the end of the year. (note iMac has ATI x1600, reportedly)
10:26 am
17' iMac, 20' iMac; 2-3x faster. Shipping Today.
Go here to see more:
http://www.macrumorslive.com/web/
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chrisflowers
10-01-2006, 23:28
You beat me to it Julie.
Must checkout the new macbookpro intel laptop (4x fsater than my current one - wheey!)
John have you seen these yet?
I'll have your old one Chris,Apple should give you one free for all the advertising you do for them[msnsmile][msnsmile][msnsmile]
floridadreamvilla.co.uk
11-01-2006, 00:35
Yep - I was watching the live comments coming out of the Expo online. New MacBook's look great - first time I've seen dual processor in a laptop.
<blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:Originally posted by chrisflowers
John have you seen these yet?
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All sounds great to me!!!
Been on the Apple store going to order the new Imac asap [clap][clap][clap]
Can wait till we need a MacBook too[msnwink] I am sure we can find a reason[clap][clap]
Number 2 son just bought a new iBook today too, we have way too many Macs in our house the poor PC's must feel very put out LOL!!!!
chrisflowers
11-01-2006, 02:18
Watch the keynote by Quicktime -
http://macworld.apple.com.edgesuite.net/mw/index.html
Thank you Rose - I will sell it to you at a knock down rate!!
I have suggested to John that we get an Apple affiliate banner on the site to get some commission for the promotion we do.
they should've got into bed with amd not intel. My tuppence worth. [msnwink] The 64bit amd dual core is the dog's dangly bits.
Got the 20 inch new intel iMac today - stunning[clap][clap][clap]
chrisflowers
21-01-2006, 23:08
Julie -
Mine is due to arrive on Tuesday - can't wait
Still awaiting transition of the Powermacs and the Pro Apps before I switch my main machine
<blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:Originally posted by chrisflowers
Julie -
Mine is due to arrive on Tuesday - can't wait
Still awaiting transition of the Powermacs and the Pro Apps before I switch my main machine
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You won't be dissappointed[msnwink]
chrisflowers
21-01-2006, 23:19
Are you using Photoshop or other non-Apple video programmes that have not been made Universal - I was wondering how I would get on with Rosetta working in the background
<blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:Originally posted by chrisflowers
Are you using Photoshop or other non-Apple video programmes that have not been made Universal - I was wondering how I would get on with Rosetta working in the background
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Hubby says not tried it yet but when he has he will let you know - you will love though even when its not swiched on!!!![msnwink]
I must admit when I went to the Apple store in Florida Mall I did like the look of the macs.
They seem so fast and not like my PC that takes ages when running 2 programs etc.
Is it easy to transfer info from a windows based system to mac?
floridadreamvilla.co.uk
22-01-2006, 02:12
I'm holding out for a bit yet as I want to see all the wrinkles and take stock before getting a new Intel Mac. Quite a few of my regular programs do not run on them (Dreamweaver 8, Final Cut Pro etc etc) so am hoping this will be fixed soon as there is no point in me having a shiny, fast Mac on my desk when I cannot use the programs I use all day everyday on it.
chrisflowers
22-01-2006, 02:17
Dom
If you have an older version of Windows (not XP) or a pre-release of Vista, you can install that on the new Macs and dual boot: and use your old Windows programmes until you have adjusted to the different intuitive way of working.
Chris, we have just been playing with Comic Life, Photo Booth and Front Row its all absolutely superb, so much fun[msnwink]
chrisflowers
22-01-2006, 10:47
I will be trying out Studio 8, Photoshop, Illustrator etc next week.
Reports are that as the iMac is nearly 4x faster, even under emulation (Rosetta) Photoshop is just as quick - just wait until it is optimised and on a dual core duo!!
<blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:Originally posted by floridadreamvilla.co.uk
I'm holding out for a bit yet as I want to see all the wrinkles and take stock before getting a new Intel Mac. Quite a few of my regular programs do not run on them (Dreamweaver 8, Final Cut Pro etc etc) so am hoping this will be fixed soon as there is no point in me having a shiny, fast Mac on my desk when I cannot use the programs I use all day everyday on it.
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Won't be long.................
Most of the applications that come on your Intel-based Mac are Universal applications, designed for screaming performance with the Intel Core Duo. That includes Mac OS X, iLife ’06, Safari and Mail. Most existing applications will continue to run, thanks to Rosetta. Pro applications from Apple — including Final Cut Pro, Motion, Soundtrack Pro, DVD Studio Pro, Aperture, Logic Pro, Logic Express, Shake and Final Cut Express — are not supported by Rosetta. For most applications, you can upgrade to the Universal version for minimal cost (see “Apple Applications” to right). Third-party applications that require precision real-time playback may perform better with a Universal version. For the expected arrival dates of Universal versions of third-party applications, check with their manufacturers.
Apple Applications
If you already own Final Cut Studio 1.0, Aperture or Logic Pro 7.1, these applications are not supported to run on Intel-based Macs with Rosetta. Universal versions will be available by March 31st, 2006. New and existing owners of Final Cut Studio or Logic Pro can crossgrade for £35 (UK) / €49 (Ireland). Logic Express owners can crossgrade for £19 (UK) / €29 (Ireland). Aperture owners can crossgrade at no charge.
If you own a Final Cut Studio application that used to be available individually, you can upgrade to Final Cut Studio for these prices:
If you own... Get Final Cut Studio for...
Final Cut Pro 5 £69 / €99
DVD Studio Pro 4, Motion 2 or Soundtrack Pro £139 / €199
Final Cut Pro 4 / 4.5 or Production Suite £139 / €199
If you are anything like us we use different computers for different things[msnwink]
Its like PC world and the Apple Store in our house!!!
We gave number 2 son a extra PC to take back to Uni to make a space for the new intel iMac, he now has the new iBook, a Toshiba lap top and a PC at Uni, we still have 2 PC's, and a Tosh lap top, plus the old iMac, hubbys great big mac, 2 powerbooks and 2 ibooks and number 1 son has his powerbook at Uni[msnembarrased][msnembarrased]
floridadreamvilla.co.uk
23-01-2006, 14:35
To anyone who has bought a new Intel iMac: did you just buy the standard config or did up upgrade memory, hard disk etc etc? If the latter, can it be done at an Apple Store while you wait or do you have to order online and get it built to order?
Can you tell I'm VERY tempted to get one now [msnwink]
chrisflowers
23-01-2006, 14:40
John
I upgraded the graphics card only to the fastest one through build to order - which is why I am waiting patiently at work for my new iMac to arrive today or tomorrow.
It (the 20inch) all comes standard with 1Gb memory, supadrive and a reasonable (250Gb) hard drive configuration.
As this machine will become my wife's when the upgraded powermacs come out, I stayed with that, but upped the graphics specs to get better performance from my apps.
floridadreamvilla.co.uk
23-01-2006, 14:50
Thanks Chris - so how long was that from ordering to expected delivery?
<blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:Originally posted by chrisflowers
John
I upgraded the graphics card only to the fastest one through build to order - which is why I am waiting patiently at work for my new iMac to arrive today or tomorrow.
It (the 20inch) all comes standard with 1Gb memory, supadrive and a reasonable (250Gb) hard drive configuration.
As this machine will become my wife's when the upgraded powermacs come out, I stayed with that, but upped the graphics specs to get better performance from my apps.
[/quote]
<blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:Originally posted by floridadreamvilla.co.uk
To anyone who has bought a new Intel iMac: did you just buy the standard config or did up upgrade memory, hard disk etc etc? If the latter, can it be done at an Apple Store while you wait or do you have to order online and get it built to order?
Can you tell I'm VERY tempted to get one now [msnwink]
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Go on John you know you want to get one[msnwink]
chrisflowers
23-01-2006, 15:44
<blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:Originally posted by floridadreamvilla.co.uk
Thanks Chris - so how long was that from ordering to expected delivery?
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Approx 1 week
floridadreamvilla.co.uk
23-01-2006, 15:48
That's not bad - I had to wait just over 4 weeks for my current iMac and it was torture checking the status of it every day.
Anyone know if you can buy them at an Apple Store with added features (I'd be looking to soup it up as much as possible)?
<blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:Originally posted by chrisflowers
<blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:Originally posted by floridadreamvilla.co.uk
Thanks Chris - so how long was that from ordering to expected delivery?
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Approx 1 week
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John give them a ring at the Trafford Centre 0161 240 1000 tell them exactly what you want[msnwink]
chrisflowers
23-01-2006, 17:09
The hard drives and video cards are a little harder to install than memory in an iMac, so it may take as long at the Applestore as ordering online.
Taking the plunge John?
Or will you wait until I report the experience with Dreamweaver 8?
<blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:Originally posted by chrisflowers
The hard drives and video cards are a little harder to install than memory in an iMac, so it may take as long at the Applestore as ordering online.
Taking the plunge John?
Or will you wait until I report the experience with Dreamweaver 8?
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Chris let us know when it arrives!!!!
chrisflowers
23-01-2006, 17:18
No delivery yet today!!
I only got the e-mail that it was dispatched yesterday (Sunday) afternoon, so maybe it won't physically be leaving until today.
floridadreamvilla.co.uk
23-01-2006, 17:35
Not sure yet - I need to do some more research about Dreamweaver 8 as I really do need that to do my day job.
<blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:Originally posted by chrisflowers
Taking the plunge John?
Or will you wait until I report the experience with Dreamweaver 8?
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chrisflowers
23-01-2006, 17:38
I also use Dreamweaver 8 in my job, but I have the back up of my powerbook, which is currently what I am using for my dynamic web pages.
We shall see, and I will report back
floridadreamvilla.co.uk
23-01-2006, 18:02
I've just read on the Apple Support site that it does run, perhaps a little slower than normal but useable.
<blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:Originally posted by chrisflowers
I also use Dreamweaver 8 in my job, but I have the back up of my powerbook, which is currently what I am using for my dynamic web pages.
We shall see, and I will report back
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chrisflowers
23-01-2006, 18:12
I am sure it will run faster than on my G4 Powerbook.
It all depends on what you are upgrading from, I guess
floridadreamvilla.co.uk
23-01-2006, 18:36
An original G5 iMac (i.e. without iSight built in).
<blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:Originally posted by chrisflowers[brIt all depends on what you are upgrading from, I guess
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John will you be keeping the original iMac?[msnwink]
floridadreamvilla.co.uk
23-01-2006, 20:36
Yes - it's a great machine and was my first Mac. I'm not sure quite what I will do with it but I'm sure I'll find a use for it.
<blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:Originally posted by Mach 2
John will you be keeping the original iMac?[msnwink]
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chrisflowers
23-01-2006, 20:42
You could always put it in one of your villas!!
[msnwink]
floridadreamvilla.co.uk
23-01-2006, 20:46
LOL - wrong voltage I'm afraid as the G5 iMac's are not dual voltage [msnwink]
<blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:Originally posted by chrisflowers
You could always put it in one of your villas!!
[msnwink]
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Well John if you are keeping the one you already use daily, what are you waiting for...... go get the new intel one[msnwink][msnwink][msnwink][msnwink]
floridadreamvilla.co.uk
26-01-2006, 14:11
Chris
Just wondering if it arrived yet and if so, how is the performance of Dreamweaver 8?
Just looking at the online Apple Store and it's saying the 20" model ships with 512Mb memory - what makes you think it comes with 1Gb?
I do hear you need half as much memory as you expect if you are running Rosetta for apps as it caches the PPC apps in memory.
<blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:Originally posted by chrisflowers
John
I upgraded the graphics card only to the fastest one through build to order - which is why I am waiting patiently at work for my new iMac to arrive today or tomorrow.
It (the 20inch) all comes standard with 1Gb memory, supadrive and a reasonable (250Gb) hard drive configuration.
As this machine will become my wife's when the upgraded powermacs come out, I stayed with that, but upped the graphics specs to get better performance from my apps.
[/quote]
chrisflowers
26-01-2006, 18:17
Not arrived yet!![msnmad][msnmad]
Was looking forward to starting off with it this week - looking back at the dispatch e-mail it does say 7-9 business days from dispatch (despite only coming across the Irish Sea) Should have arrived quicker by horse and trap!
I have 1Gb memory in my machine - just checked the spec online - there must have been a special offer at launch, because I usually buy 3rd Party memory and install myself from www.crucial.com/uk
Just edited the spelling! - responding quickly between patients
floridadreamvilla.co.uk
26-01-2006, 19:16
Not as bad as my iMac - was shipped from Taiwan and took 4 weeks IIRC - was torture checking the online order status pages every day [msnsad]
Our old iMac has been back for repair (via J Lewis) and is due back any day it will be like a brand new computer even though it was only 26 months old! They have replaced the motherboard, the screen, and a few other bits, and they also doubled the memory (as they have taken so long)!! All repairs done for free as hubby knows consumer law inside out!
While it has been in for repair J Lewis loaned us another one, well out or curiosity hubby asked if he could buy it[msneek]like we havent got enough already[msnmad] well J Lewis asid YES for £150!!!! This is a £1500 machine (when they were new) which is less than 2 years old, but anyway now we just have to find a home for it - its getting silly now - the house is like PC World meets the Apple Store!!!!![msnwink]
chrisflowers
28-01-2006, 11:46
Lucky you Julie.
I was initially hoping that they would find they had to replace more than the hard drive when my powerbook was returned under Applecare, as they said they would just replace it with a brand new machine otherwise (mine is 18 months old) and it would have been good to get the ones with the new screens which are even brighter and higher resolution.
Aiminghigh
29-01-2006, 23:44
My son is trying to buy an Apple ibook G4 with an 80 GB hard drive. We only have PC's here so this is all new to me. Does anybody know whether they have to be bought via Apple or whether discounts can be obtained elsewhere.
Thanks
Carole
<blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:Originally posted by Aiminghigh
My son is trying to buy an Apple ibook G4 with an 80 GB hard drive. We only have PC's here so this is all new to me. Does anybody know whether they have to be bought via Apple or whether discounts can be obtained elsewhere.
Thanks
Carole
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Carole we have many Macs and they are normally the same price anywhere.
My advice would be go to an Apple Store to buy it and don't forget he gets 6-8% stydent discount[msnwink]
If you need any more advice let me know hubby is a bit of an expert on Macs[msnwink] My eldest has the 15" G4 Powerbook and number 2 son has the 12 G4 iBook, and I have the 12" G4 Powerbook[msnwink]
Feel free to DM me[msnwink]
Aiminghigh
29-01-2006, 23:52
Thanks Julie!
He mentioned he could get a discount if he bought it through school. Can he get this if he just goes to the store and provides evidence of being a student?
Carole
PS It's the 12" version he's after-same as your number 2 son!
<blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:Originally posted by Aiminghigh
Thanks Julie!
He mentioned he could get a discount if he bought it through school. Can he get this if he just goes to the store and provides evidence of being a student?
Carole
PS It's the 12" version he's after-same as your number 2 son!
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Yes just go with student card, number 2 son only got his a few weeks ago from the Trafford Centre[msnwink]
Just out of curiousity whats the main use for it going to be?
Aiminghigh
30-01-2006, 00:51
<blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:Originally posted by Mach 2
<blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:Originally posted by Aiminghigh
Thanks Julie!
He mentioned he could get a discount if he bought it through school. Can he get this if he just goes to the store and provides evidence of being a student?
Carole
PS It's the 12" version he's after-same as your number 2 son!
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Yes just go with student card, number 2 son only got his a few weeks ago from the Trafford Centre[msnwink]
Just out of curiousity whats the main use for it going to be?
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He is going to Uni in Sept to do a Sound Engineering course and it has been recommended[msnscared]
Carole
<blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:Originally posted by Aiminghigh
<blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:Originally posted by Mach 2
<blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:Originally posted by Aiminghigh
Thanks Julie!
He mentioned he could get a discount if he bought it through school. Can he get this if he just goes to the store and provides evidence of being a student?
Carole
PS It's the 12" version he's after-same as your number 2 son!
[/quote]
Yes just go with student card, number 2 son only got his a few weeks ago from the Trafford Centre[msnwink]
Just out of curiousity whats the main use for it going to be?
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He is going to Uni in Sept to do a Sound Engineering course and it has been recommended[msnscared]
Carole
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Carole, I might be wrong but for Sound Engineering it will be very memory intensive, my eldest is doing Audio & Media Management degree and he has the 15" Powerbook not the iBook (number 2 son who has the iBook is doing Psychology so his is more of a 'toy'). If its sound or graphics work he is doing the advice is always to go for max spec you can afford. The iBook is a nice machine but it is really at the bottom of the food chain as far as serious production work is concerned. In hubbys view if he is going to be doing a sound degree he should be going for a G4 Powerbook ideally the 15"[msnwink] It will be more money up front but it will serve hm well. Have a look here at the G4 15" Powerbook.......
http://store.apple.com/Apple/WebObjects/ukstore sorry previous link timed out[msnwink]
Aiminghigh
30-01-2006, 02:00
Thanks so much Julie. We shall look into this before making any decisions!
Carole
chrisflowers
30-01-2006, 10:54
Carole
The G4 powerbooks should be getting cheaper now that the new MacBook Pro has been announced, so there may well be some bargains out there especially at one of the Apple resellers, such as
Cancom: http://www.cancomuk.com/products/clearance.lasso?clk=1_b
Computer Warehouse: http://www.cwonline.co.uk/index.tpl?cart=11386038621671022&type=powerbook&feature=computer-feature&listing=comp
Gordon Harwood: http://www.ghc.co.uk/
Dabs: http://www.dabs.com/ProductList.aspx?fb=336
Aiminghigh
30-01-2006, 22:15
Thanks Chris!
Carole
chrisflowers
30-01-2006, 22:25
You could even try a refurbed G4 powerbook - and make sure you ask for education pricing, and you will find the deals out there
Chris,
How's your Intel iMac??
Ours has just had to be replaced already, riddled with faults[msnmad][msnmad][msnmad]
Eldest son's 15' Powerbook also got to go back for a fault[msnmad][msnmad][msnmad]
Old 17' iMac just replaced after being in for repair for 4 months and still not fault free so after them spending £600+ on it[msnmad][msnmad][msnmad]replaced it with a one of the last 17" G4 iMacs[clap][clap][clap]
Think Apple need to watch it, so many iPods going back to at the momment too[msnsad]
chrisflowers
31-03-2006, 03:59
My 20 inch iMac is a dream. And speedy too.
My universal version of Final Cut Studio is on it's way from Apple so I can try out some really high end video stuff and push it.
So far, however hard I push it, there is hardly any noise from the hard drive, and it always seems to have plenty in reserve.
My G4 powerbook seems incredibly slow compared to the iMac.
That's good to hear Chris - we opened the new (replacement) 20 inch Intel iMac and guess what? No mouse and no remote[msnmad] Final straw!
Hubby has just sent a missle off to Apple so watch this space [msnmad]
chrisflowers
31-03-2006, 11:25
That may be because most people only send the CPU back to Apple when there is a problem. I know I did that with my 'bubble' iMac years ago under Applecare.
I bought a 2 button and scroll mouse anyway, and don't tend to use the Apple keyboard.
We like the mighty mouse.
This was a brand new computer though so should have been complete.
We added up our Macs and 4 out 12 have faults which for hubby is a high ratio, if you go on the discussions pages there are so many major problems at the momment and we seem to be experiencing most.....
This is a major one at the momment........
"no sound on dvds burned with idvd 6" in the Apple Discussions forum "iDVD 6"
http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=2031697#2031697
All that being said I still prefer them to PC and Windows any day[msnwink]
chrisflowers
31-03-2006, 11:55
I haven't used iDVD 6 yet as I have DVD studio pro coming as part of the Final Cut Studio upgrade, and hopefully they have that issue sorted before they released the new binaries as most people will be using it on new iMacs or MacBook Pros
I will let you know if I have a problem when I import some of my iDVD 5 projects into Studio Pro and try and burn DVDs
chrisflowers
31-03-2006, 11:56
The biggest problem for me so far is the lack of BlueRay or HDDVD burners
Just had a call from Apple Executive Customer Services so looks like we may see some action[msnwink]
chrisflowers
31-03-2006, 23:07
Hurray!
Hope you get somewhere before the weekend is out Julie!
<blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:Originally posted by chrisflowers
Hurray!
Hope you get somewhere before the weekend is out Julie!
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Thank you we are back to the Apple Store in the morning as the 'new' intel is not so new!!!
flyrr100
03-04-2006, 07:46
I've had my 17" Intel iMac for just over a month now and I'm very happy with it.
I havn't tried burning a DVD yet, but the CDs I've made all are fine.
Bought mine at CompUSA in Orlando. Also got the Apple Care three year warrenty for $200.
Our Intel Mac 20" has now been replaced and all OK so far got 10% discount card now for Apple as comp.
The 17 inch, and both the 15 Powerbooks look set to go back in today, we are now dealing with the top floor so hopefully get everything sorted soon[msnwink]
chrisflowers
03-04-2006, 16:48
Great Julie.
I spent the weekend geting the Universal upgrade for Final Cut Studio onto my 20inch Intel iMac, and was playing around with DVD Studio Pro and Soundtrack. Made some pretty fun projects within a few minutes, and it deals with different resolutions of videos on the fly, so really amazing so far.
Takes a bit of getting used to after the iLife apps.
More talks with Apple today, as we use and sell Studio Code/Sport code for business use they have sat up and listened[msnwink]
floridadreamvilla.co.uk
05-04-2006, 21:49
I see Apple have just released a beta of Boot Camp, where you can dual boot your Intel Mac into OS X or Windows:
http://www.appleinsider.com/article.php?id=1650
Yes hubby was just talking about it, lets hope its not been released to soon and full of problems[msnwink]
For everyone that's interested info............
Intel Macs require a different partition scheme from PowerPC Macs. It's called the GUID Partition Table. PowerPC Macs use the Apple Partition Table. If you partition an Intel Mac's hard drive using APT and then install OS X for Intel, it will not boot the computer. You must partition an Intel Mac hard drive using the GPT, then install the Intel version of OS X.
The following articles should be helpful reading:
http://rentzsch.com/tidbits/intelbasedMacBootIncompatibility
http://db.tidbits.com/getbits.acgi?tbart=08405
Now, when the drive is partitioned for use with Windows via Boot Camp or via the OnMac.net system the Windows partition has to be set up for Windows filesystems. If you then decide not to use the partition for Windows booting, then you cannot simply erase the partition. You need to re-partition the drive.
From the Boot Camp information Apple suggests that Boot Camp's installer will re-partition the drive on the fly. It also suggests that if you decide to uninstall Boot Camp it will return the partition on the fly. This cannot be done using Disk Utility, rather it requires using the Unix lower-level utility, probably "pdisk", to make these changes.
[msnscared][msnscared][msnscared]
chrisflowers
05-04-2006, 22:16
No way Julie!
There may be an easier way - thanks to the UNIX geeks -
Bootloader is also available to make bootable discs - this is a free utility which runs at start up and you have choice of OSX or Windows XP.
<blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:Originally posted by chrisflowers
No way Julie!
There may be an easier way - thanks to the UNIX geeks -
Bootloader is also available to make bootable discs - this is a free utility which runs at start up and you have choice of OSX or Windows XP.
[/quote]
Not from me, its all ******** to me, its from the Apple discussions site[msnscared]
chrisflowers
05-04-2006, 22:45
It will be easier for us when the DARWINE project comes to fruition (fruity pun!)
This will allow us to run Windows programmes natively without using Windows
As it is I am now experimenting with Rails server, and using RUBY to write AJAX applications for the web 2.0
floridadreamvilla.co.uk
08-04-2006, 21:13
Well, I could wait no longer. Had to take Freya to a birthday party in Altrincham today so took the opportunity to pop to the Trafford Center and get myself a new Intel iMac - went for a 20" with 1.5Gb RAM and upgraded graphics card.
It's half way through transferring all the data and settings from my old iMac - this is torture - I'm dying to give it a good try but have to wait a few hours for everything to be transferred.
Initial impressions are that it's VERY fast - my old iMac was fast but this is lightening speed.
Hope you like it John[msnwink], as you know our first 20 inch Intel went back [msnsad]so we are on number 2, I think we must be used to the speed of Macs because I don't notice it being much faster[msnwink]
floridadreamvilla.co.uk
08-04-2006, 21:40
I'll know in 3 hours, 59 minutes and counting...
The ones in the shop were noticeably faster - Safari just sprang into life as did a few other programs I tried on it.
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Hope you like it John[msnwink], as you know our first 20 inch Intel went back [msnsad]so we are on number 2, I think we must be used to the speed of Macs because I don't notice it being much faster[msnwink]
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chrisflowers
08-04-2006, 21:44
John
Are you using Migration assistant then to clone your computer to the new iMac?
I tried that, which even included the preferences and passwords/licenses for all my applications.
I think next time I will take the opportunity to reinstall just the Apps I need.
floridadreamvilla.co.uk
08-04-2006, 21:55
Yes - the Migration Assistant that you use when you first switch on the new machine. I need pretty much everything that is on the older iMac. The killer is the home videos as they take LOADS of space and ages to transfer :(.
chrisflowers
08-04-2006, 21:58
I know what you mean John.
I moved them to a different drive (external first) and deleted them from my hard drive before using Migration Assistant.
The only thing I have to say is that it makes an incredible job of changing from one computer to another. You will not notice the difference in the computer, except that it is incredibly fast.
The pro Apps run brilliantly.
floridadreamvilla.co.uk
08-04-2006, 22:00
Excellent - wish I'd thought of that first...it's now saying 12 hours 12 minutes - I was hoping the numbers would be going down, not up [msnsad].
Now all I need is Final Cut Express as a Universal Binary as my wallet will not stretch to Final Cut Studio just to edit home videos.
<blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:Originally posted by chrisflowers
I know what you mean John.
I moved them to a different drive (external first) and deleted them from my hard drive before using Migration Assistant.
The only theing I have to say is that it makes an incredible job of changing from one computer to another. You will not notice the difference in the computer, except that it is incredibly fast.
The pro Apps run brilliantly.
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John, how have you got the two macs connected to tranfer the data??
floridadreamvilla.co.uk
08-04-2006, 23:02
A firewire cable.
It's improved quite a bit and only has 3 hours to run now. It's moving something like 240Gb of data so no wonder it's taking an age. I must learn to put things on my external drives every so often [msnwink].
<blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:Originally posted by Mach 2
John, how have you got the two macs connected to tranfer the data??
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One quick way (and there are a few!) is to use Target Disk mode. You can just drag your "Home" folder across to your new Mac ffrom your old Mac via FireWire - usually speeds things up a lot. Saves all that unnecessary transfer of data you don't or might not need.
Chris (Julie's hubby)
floridadreamvilla.co.uk
08-04-2006, 23:20
Thanks Chris - that's a good suggestion.
It's not far from being done now so I'll go off, grab a beer or two and when I come back I can have a good play with my new toy :D.
<blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:Originally posted by Mach 2
One quick way (and there are a few!) is to use Target Disk mode. You can just drag your "Home" folder across to your new Mac ffrom your old Mac via FireWire - usually speeds things up a lot. Saves all that unnecessary transfer of data you don't or might not need.
Chris (Julie's hubby)
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Enjoy!
Chris
<blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:Originally posted by floridadreamvilla.co.uk
Thanks Chris - that's a good suggestion.
It's not far from being done now so I'll go off, grab a beer or two and when I come back I can have a good play with my new toy :D.
<blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:Originally posted by Mach 2
One quick way (and there are a few!) is to use Target Disk mode. You can just drag your "Home" folder across to your new Mac ffrom your old Mac via FireWire - usually speeds things up a lot. Saves all that unnecessary transfer of data you don't or might not need.
Chris (Julie's hubby)
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floridadreamvilla.co.uk
10-04-2006, 21:25
Well, I've had it a couple of days now and today was the first chance to give it a good test as part of a day's work.
The migration was as Chris said - absolutely perfect - you would not know you were using a different machine as I started it up and it was exactly as my old one was - nothing changed at all, except the machine was faster and even quieter than the already very quiet old iMac.
The main application I have to use Rosetta for is Dreamweaver 8 and even that runs flawlessly and at least as fast as it did on my old iMac, even though all PPC instructions are being translated to Intel on the fly - very impressive.
I installed BootCamp and installed Windows XP onto a seperate partition with no problems at all. I'd forgotten how fiddly and over-complicated installing Windows is - and when you are done you have to apply tons of security patches and then your software [msnsad]. Windows absolutely flies on the new iMac - never seen it so fast.
In summary, can you tell I'm delighted by my Intel iMac [msnsmile2][msnsmile2][msnsmile2].
chrisflowers
10-04-2006, 21:41
There you go John.
Are you also trying out ASP on the windows partition as a testing server for your active server pages?
I have noticed no difference at all in the speed of Dreamweaver between my powerbook G4 and the Intel iMac. It was always pretty fast. The good thing with migration assistant is that the activation is carried over from one machine to another and so I can now use it both on my laptop (when at work, or in Florida) or on my iMac at home.
floridadreamvilla.co.uk
10-04-2006, 21:45
Nope - the Windows partition is just for my Geocaching programs as most of them are Windows only and are just too useful (and time saving) to ignore.
We have a test server which I can remote control on the Internet as it's the easiest way for me and Roger to both have access to it if needs be.
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Are you also trying out ASP on the windows partition as a testing server for your active server pages?
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