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Snapper
28-03-2005, 04:44
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Snapper
28-03-2005, 04:46
As a bit of an experiment I wanted to see whether it's possible to get decent fireworks photos without using a triopd. I think the results work OK. If anyone wants to try this there are a few notes below for how to setup the camera.

There are a couple of things worth mentioning. These are all taken at an extremely high ISO setting (more on this in a few lines) and so the originals come out really grainy; that is they have speckles here and there. This is quite normal. These tend to jpeg out of existence when reducing the size of the picture for using on the web so aren't too much trouble. It's also fair to say that these should print OK at 6x4 but there is no way they are going to stand being blown up to 10x8 or 20x16. You've gotta make a trade-off somewhere, and that's where it is. The other thing to mention is that the make, model, type of camera used shouldn't matter. These were all taken with the Nikon but there is no reason why a snappy point and shoot should get the same results.

So to the settings:
ISO: Set the camera's ISO setting to ISO 1600. This is going to make things really grainy but it's the only way the camera is going to pick up enough light.
Exposure Mode: Forget any automatic settings, forget any program settings and switch it to manual. You'll need to set a shutter speed and a aperture value. Set the shutter speed to 1/25, one twenty-fifth of a second, and set the aperture to f3.5, or as close as you can get it.
Focus: Switch off the autofocus and focus manually. Focus on the castle and then forget it. The autofocus won't be anywhere near fast enough and you'll just miss shots.
Zoom: Use the wider angle end of the lens' zoom; it's easier to hold the camera steady at wider angles and you can always crop the photos later.

Taking the photos: The golden rule is to take heaps of photos. Take dozens. Aim to take between 50 and 100 and you should get a handful of good ones. Start with a new flash card and shoot, shoot, shoot. Don't try to sort anything out until you are back home and can view the photos on a much bigger screen. Use the gaps in the fireworks to check the image previews to make sure they look clear, in-focus and not too dark or light. If they look too dark try setting the shutter speed down to 1/10 but this might make things blurred if the camera doesn't have image stabilisation. If they are too light, try setting the shutter speed fractionally faster; 1/40 or 1/50 depending on what the camera will give you. Tempting though it will be, don't try to photograph Tinkerbell. She is way too small to get a good shot, she moves too fast to focus and you'll spend the rest of the show trying to re-focus on the castle and reset everything.

trevlad
28-03-2005, 05:00
absolutely fantastic steve. youre not a paparazzi or scenes of crime officer are you?. nowt against either but you have, some skill there[clap][clap][clap]


i take it the camera is a digital version of one of those larger 'proper' 35mm ones ?

ORLANDO_MAGIC
28-03-2005, 05:16
Superb photo's as always Steve.

Another Masterclass in taking firework photographs.

Newhomebuyer
28-03-2005, 12:23
Thanks Steve, I think they are all amazing but the second one is my favourite because it gave me a real insight into the castle now. For a moment I was standing on Main Street.

brizzle
28-03-2005, 14:53
Great pictures.
This will be my way of taking again later this year...no tripod.:)

I have in the past tried to stick to a lower ISO, to avoid the grainy images, but I will try my highest setting which only goes as far as ISO 400.

Nice to see the new bits on the Castle too. I can't wait to get some new pictures of the Castle with all of it's 'birthday gear' on.

Brizzle.

eagleydo
28-03-2005, 16:49
I always look forward to seeing your pictures. [clap][beer]

28-03-2005, 18:42
Brilliant as usual Steve!![clap][clap][clap][clap][clap][clap][clap]

KJH
28-03-2005, 18:57
Thanks Steve,

It was all boarded up in Feb. Nice to see it.

Kaz

chunkichik
28-03-2005, 20:35
Well done again Steve, absolutely fantastic and must be the best firework pictures I've seen[clap][clap][clap][clap]

Fireworks are one of my favourites at Disney and wish I was there now, but only got to wait til Oct!!!

Epic
28-03-2005, 20:56
brill pics yet again steve

Cruella DeVilla
28-03-2005, 21:35
<blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:Originally posted by chunkichik
Well done again Steve, absolutely fantastic and must be the best firework pictures I've seen[clap][clap][clap][clap]

Fireworks are one of my favourites at Disney and wish I was there now, but only got to wait til Oct!!!
[/quote]

Anita,

You love fireworks? Get yourself to Hong Kong or China for the New Year celebrations! Although when the new Disney opens in Hong Kong you can bet your bottom dollar the fireworks will be something else. When I lived in Hong Kong the New Year celebrations were awesome, (puts Disney etc in the shade). One year hey had a dragon which lit up the sky and it was massive. They spend millions of dollars on it!

Orchid
28-03-2005, 22:34
Great photos, can't wait to see the fireworks myself.

Really looking forward to my hols now the more I read this forum.

Snapper
28-03-2005, 23:14
LOL Trevlad. [msnsmile2][msnsmile2] I'm neither. I think I'd prefer being Lockheed's or Boeing's launch photographer or travelling the world with the BBC or National Geographic paying the bills if I had the choice. Not that I'll ever have the choice, but we can all dream!

Brizzle - when are you back out there? That castle is still a pain in the proverbial for getting a good photograph. That big mirror monstrosoty on the front of it hides the clock nicely but it's so big that it just dominates everything. There is still no obvious way to frame the castle for the fireworks. I'm sure that Disney do it on purpose! I didn't get a chance to photograph it during the day so it'll be great to see what you can conjur up. It really needs one of those gorgeous clear blue skies behind it.

That ISO vs. Image Quality trade-off is always a tough one. The day will come eventually when we can shoot at ISO 1600 or 3200 with no loss of quality and the camera's imaging electronics will have a grain-on or grain-off setting. Dreaming again!

LiesaAnna
28-03-2005, 23:48
great pics as per usual Steve!!!
well done!!!!!
and thanks once again for sharing them!

bluebirds
29-03-2005, 00:00
Fantastic photos makes us wish we there right now. We are hoping to get some really great photos in May when we are out there. Thanks for the tips on taking the firework photos thet are very useful[clap]

brizzle
29-03-2005, 00:32
<blockquote id="quote" class="ffs">quote:Originally posted by Snapper

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Brizzle - when are you back out there? That castle is still a pain in the proverbial for getting a good photograph. That big mirror monstrosoty on the front of it hides the clock nicely but it's so big that it just dominates everything. There is still no obvious way to frame the castle for the fireworks. I'm sure that Disney do it on purpose! I didn't get a chance to photograph it during the day so it'll be great to see what you can conjur up. It really needs one of those gorgeous clear blue skies behind it.

That ISO vs. Image Quality trade-off is always a tough one. The day will come eventually when we can shoot at ISO 1600 or 3200 with no loss of quality and the camera's imaging electronics will have a grain-on or grain-off setting. Dreaming again!
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Not back until October now. :(
The eldest now being at school kind of limits when I can get away.

Isn't that mirror going to show 'live pictures' from the parks around the world during the 50th celebrations?
Maybe you cuold get access to a roof on Main Street for a good angle of the Castle...

Do you think they'll ever get noise free high ISO pics?
Is it even possible due to laws of physics etc..?

Brizzle.

Snapper
29-03-2005, 01:43
Yah cannee change the lawrs a physics!!! Dunno Brizzle. I have to admit to not knowing how CCDs and CMOS sensors dynamically change their ISOs. It must be something to do with voltages and things but I don't know.

The Main Street roofs could be the answer. I did write to Disney once asking if it would be possible to use them but I didn't get anywhere. Half the battle is even getting to talk to the right person. I wish I'd made a note of the name of the fireworks imagineer I was chatting to at Epcot just before Christmas. He could probably have pulled a few strings. Maybe I'll send a print over to the Epcot fireworks team and try to get in touch that way.

rosie
29-03-2005, 11:41
I've been waiting to see these pics since I knew you went to Wishes Steve, they are fantastic yet again [clap] Thank you for posting them and please keep "snapping" away and posting for us all to enjoy [msnsmile2]

debbie
30-03-2005, 02:58
What fantasic photos - wishes is for us a very emotional sight and you have captured this (I think) splendidly! We were there again but a little more awake!
Debbie

mizzy
22-09-2007, 00:45
wow i've never seen these before they are fantastic[clap][clap][clap]

CarolAnn
22-09-2007, 11:57
Did I miss these? It is almost as good as being there Steve...they are absolutely fabulous:)

jamo4748
22-09-2007, 15:46
Wow, Steve , as usual absolutely FAB pictures. Thanks.[high5]
Maureen

ladypaula
04-10-2007, 03:59
i could only wish to take photos like this.

Susan J
04-10-2007, 13:27
Wishes is such a special memory for me, that these were wonderful -any objections to me copying one for my Desktop on PC? It would be just the thing to keep me going until next year!!

Snapper
04-10-2007, 16:56
Hi Susan,

No worries at all if you want one for a desktop and it isn't used commercially.

If you DM me which photo you like along with your email address I'll dig out a higher resolution version for you and email it over.

I don't know if it's too early to start thinking about Christmas but if you want a Christmas desktop I took a couple of Osborne Lights photos specifically for this use.

The fifth photo down on this thread: http://www.orlando-guide.info/forums/topic_34985.asp (the arched windows)

and

The fourth photo down on this thread: http://www.orlando-guide.info/forums/topic_16576.asp (the lights)

kokomo
16-10-2007, 21:27
Wow, sensational photo's Steve.

crush777
17-11-2007, 02:20
quite simply fantastic i will take note of your settings and give it a go on my trip next year what lens are you using i will be using cannon 400d with 90 to 300 with IS or standard 18 to 55 no IS any info to achive good reults would be very much appreciated cheers crush

Snapper
17-11-2007, 20:38
Hi Crush. From memory I think I shot these with a 24-120mm VR (Nikon's equivalent of Canon's IS).

If you want the full story I wrote it up for the Florida Guide: http://www.orlandovillas.com/florida_guide/photographing-wishes-without-a-tripod.aspx

And if you aren't bored at the end of that page there's an equivalent for how to set about photographing illuminations if you have a tripod and a bit of time available: http://www.orlandovillas.com/florida_guide/photographing-illuminations.aspx

With your two lenses you might find yourself a bit strung out. If you are hand holding I'd always say to go with an IS lens. Everything is so dark that you are constantly fighting against longer shutter speeds. 90mm won't give you the wide view to capture the complete display. Switching to your 18-55mm you'll get a much better range and field of view ... but lose the IS [msnsad]

If I had to choose I'd say go with the 18-55mm, set your ISO as high as it will go and if poss try not to stray too far below 1/20th of a second. At 18mm you should be pretty stable at 1/20th. At 55mm it's a bit touch-and-go. Give it a twirl and see how you get on.

Good luck.

taylona
17-11-2007, 21:16
Enjoyed the photos Steve.

mfairhurst
17-11-2007, 21:26
They are AWESOME and cannot wait to back and see all the lovely placs ,When we come back like to reminede how good it is .
Thanks for reminding us [msnsmile2]
MAUREEN
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