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flyrr100
   
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| I just flew with a pilot from Oz. He and his wife won their green cards last year in the lottery! All they needed was a high school graduation and a clean police record. Do the Brits have the Green Card Lottery? | Jeff & Amy Stephens | | Report this post to a moderator |
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florida4sun
    
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Frosty
   
 USA 825 Posts Joined: 15 May 2004 Status: online | Posted - 21 Aug 2007 : 20:22:11

| quote: Originally posted by florida4sun We are not excluded from emigrating to the usa as over 100,000 of us do that each each year.
quote: Originally posted by Cruella DeVilla We stand side by side with her no matter what but we are excluded
But where do they get their figures for emigrating? We have moved here, but under the rules of an E2 visa we are classed as temporary. Are we included in the "emigrated" numbers i wonder???
The measure would be how many people attain permanent residence in the US from the UK per year.
Interestingly, i wonder whether Roger and his family are included in the UK numbers, even though they got here by having connections to another country (Germany).
If that were the case then people who can apply through connections to other countries would infact be stopping people who have no ties, by filling the avaialble 10,000 allocated slots. Now that would seem just plain unfair. | Neil & Kay | | Report this post to a moderator | goto top of page |
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roger
    
 USA 3910 Posts Joined: 21 Jan 2002 Status: offline | Posted - 21 Aug 2007 : 21:04:12 
| It is based on the number of people from each country obtaining permenant residency (green cards) not on the numbers approved for various other visas.
They look at the country of chargeability (Germany in Carolyn's case) when counting numbers of people from various countries.
I would imagine in our case, we will count as 1 person from Germany and 5 people from the UK in terms of the stats.
quote: Originally posted by Frosty
quote: Originally posted by florida4sun We are not excluded from emigrating to the usa as over 100,000 of us do that each each year.
quote: Originally posted by Cruella DeVilla We stand side by side with her no matter what but we are excluded
But where do they get their figures for emigrating? We have moved here, but under the rules of an E2 visa we are classed as temporary. Are we included in the "emigrated" numbers i wonder???
The measure would be how many people attain permanent residence in the US from the UK per year.
Interestingly, i wonder whether Roger and his family are included in the UK numbers, even though they got here by having connections to another country (Germany).
If that were the case then people who can apply through connections to other countries would infact be stopping people who have no ties, by filling the avaialble 10,000 allocated slots. Now that would seem just plain unfair.
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Cruella DeVilla
    
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| quote: Originally posted by florida4sun We are not excluded from emigrating to the usa as over 100,000 of us do that each each year.
quote: Originally posted by Cruella DeVilla We stand side by side with her no matter what but we are excluded
Martin I am not talking about being excluded from emigrating (Although it is not technically possible to emigrate is it) I am talking about being excluded for the green card lottery which is what the title was. At the moment I know more than most how difficut the whole saga is | CDV
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SDJ
   
 United Kingdom 1454 Posts Joined: 16 Nov 2005 Status: offline | Posted - 21 Aug 2007 : 23:19:01

| We have not been allowed to win the lottery now for at least 15 years.
I was given to understand that years earlier, when UK had the 'brain drain' which some of the oldies may remember, that a private treaty was made between the 2 countries to try to stop all the clever educated British leaving to live in the USA. From my understanding, that is still the case.
Unscrupulous US Attorneys were still collecting fees - I think it was around $60/$80 to enter the Lottery, whilst we had no chance of winning a Green Card.
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Frosty
   
 USA 825 Posts Joined: 15 May 2004 Status: online | Posted - 22 Aug 2007 : 00:48:31

| quote: Originally posted by roger It is based on the number of people from each country obtaining permenant residency (green cards) not on the numbers approved for various other visas.
They look at the country of chargeability (Germany in Carolyn's case) when counting numbers of people from various countries.
I would imagine in our case, we will count as 1 person from Germany and 5 people from the UK in terms of the stats.
quote: Originally posted by Frosty
quote: Originally posted by florida4sun We are not excluded from emigrating to the usa as over 100,000 of us do that each each year.
quote: Originally posted by Cruella DeVilla We stand side by side with her no matter what but we are excluded
But where do they get their figures for emigrating? We have moved here, but under the rules of an E2 visa we are classed as temporary. Are we included in the "emigrated" numbers i wonder???
The measure would be how many people attain permanent residence in the US from the UK per year.
Interestingly, i wonder whether Roger and his family are included in the UK numbers, even though they got here by having connections to another country (Germany).
If that were the case then people who can apply through connections to other countries would infact be stopping people who have no ties, by filling the avaialble 10,000 allocated slots. Now that would seem just plain unfair.
Thanks for putting me straight.
Still think its unfair that you have applied because of your links with Germany, so all your numbers should have gone against the german allocation. That way there might not be so many UK emigrants coming to America, then there might be a chance we don't send our allocation and thus they open the lottery back up to UK citizens.
Thats not an attack on you, good on yer that you got in, i just think that the system is flawed and it seems to be flawed heavy against us having a fighting chance same as everyone else.
Maybe SDJ is right and there is something a lot more underhand going on between the 2 countries. | Neil & Kay | | Report this post to a moderator | goto top of page |
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