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Cruella DeVilla
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| I was going to suggest Manchester Kev but I see it has been mentioned. I get the Newcastle Liverpool train when I go to Manchester airport from York almost on a weekly basis and it is usualy full of Geordies going to Manchester airport. The prices are just so good from Manchester these days. Although it is a 2 hour plus jourmey for me it is door to door and so convenient. BTW £99 all in if you can fly Thursday |
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KevinT
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Status: offline | Posted - 18 Sep 2006 : 19:43:46
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Originally posted by Cruella DeVilla
I was going to suggest Manchester Kev but I see it has been mentioned. I get the Newcastle Liverpool train when I go to Manchester airport from York almost on a weekly basis and it is usualy full of Geordies going to Manchester airport. The prices are just so good from Manchester these days. Although it is a 2 hour plus jourmey for me it is door to door and so convenient. BTW £99 all in if you can fly Thursday
Just reinforces the case CDV! We're flying from NCL in two weeks time....£435 (and I thought that was pretty good when I booked).
don't begrudge the £99 ( alright ...I do!!)as they are last minuters and can't be counted on. They must balance up the £99 tickets with the £745 ones!!
That wasn't you I saw on the York train handing out bottles of Brown Ale and villa flyers was it??  |
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millie
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Status: offline | Posted - 18 Sep 2006 : 20:09:08
| I am planning to take my little girl out of school for the last 2 weeks before summer in 2008 for our next trip. She will be in primary 2.
I firmly believe learning is not just about being sat in a classroom and the amount of knowledge she takes on with every visit is astounding. Experience of different cultures and places is fantastic.
The reason we are taking her at that time in particular is that the last 2 weeks are wind down and not a lot is actually being taught. It will save us a fortune - some of you may not think that is a good enough reason - but I do. The prices to take kids on holiday during school time is extortionate and well out of order. There are 8 of us going and the price difference is roughly £1500 maybe more. Also the queues are shorter and that makes our holiday more relaxing and enjoyable. And lastly we can not always get holidays during school holidays so have to be flexible.
I agree with Leisa I don't think we are being irresponsible at all. And actually don't care of anyone thinks we are.
Maybe they would think twice if the prices were more reasonable during holiday time. I have seen both sides to the coin, travelling with and without kids and it does guile you that you have to pay much more for the same service at different times of the year.
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freddiehollie
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Status: offline | Posted - 18 Sep 2006 : 20:48:10
| Hear Hear Millie. As Homer said there your kids so it should be up to you to decide whats right for them. Not some faceless beurocrat.  . Why should we get told off by schools/goverment,or whoever, about our actions with our kids due to WORK!! commitments, not fitting in with school terms. School holidays are long enough as it is without taking extra days for teacher training or inset days over & above. If the school can do that to us, we will fit our holidays round our work & not them. We work very hard to provide for our family, so they are not going to stop us enjoying a few weeks away as a family.  Come the revolution!!! Sorry I'm on my soap box, but when you look whats going on in the country/world it seems very insignificant to punish a parent for taking a child on holiday. |
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pepsi
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Status: offline | Posted - 18 Sep 2006 : 21:08:13
| | In my school parents have to write a letter to the governors for permission to take their children out of school. Many requests are overturned so if the children go on holiday in term time it goes down as an unauthorised absence. I am not saying I agree with this procedure - it's just what happens and I think this ruling has been given by the LEA rather than our school. |
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Cruella DeVilla
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Status: offline | Posted - 18 Sep 2006 : 21:19:34
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Originally posted by Cruella DeVilla
I was going to suggest Manchester Kev but I see it has been mentioned. I get the Newcastle Liverpool train when I go to Manchester airport from York almost on a weekly basis and it is usualy full of Geordies going to Manchester airport. The prices are just so good from Manchester these days. Although it is a 2 hour plus jourmey for me it is door to door and so convenient. BTW £99 all in if you can fly Thursday
That wasn't you I saw on the York train handing out bottles of Brown Ale and villa flyers was it??
Heee heee if it was me it would be Champagne! I know it's strange but I get a bit embarrased talking to people about the villa, sounds like you are showing off so can confirm it wansnie me as I would be too embarassed to hand out flyers |
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LiesaAnna
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Status: offline | Posted - 18 Sep 2006 : 21:59:21
| CDV, dont ever be embaressed about owning a villa!!! you know you and yours work dam hard to get what you have today!
im happy to know people that own villas!!! |
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Robert5988
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Status: offline | Posted - 18 Sep 2006 : 22:32:48
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Hear Hear Millie. As Homer said there your kids so it should be up to you to decide whats right for them. Not some faceless beurocrat. . Why should we get told off by schools/goverment,or whoever, about our actions with our kids due to WORK!! commitments, not fitting in with school terms. School holidays are long enough as it is without taking extra days for teacher training or inset days over & above. If the school can do that to us, we will fit our holidays round our work & not them. We work very hard to provide for our family, so they are not going to stop us enjoying a few weeks away as a family. Come the revolution!!! Sorry I'm on my soap box, but when you look whats going on in the country/world it seems very insignificant to punish a parent for taking a child on holiday.
You must be joking if you think it should be up to the parents to decide when kids attend school.
Some parents would happily not let their kids attend school at all – have them working on the rag and bone cart at twelve - cos that was good enough for them and their parents. Others would just let their kids stay at home – cos they don’t like school.
Others would not dream of having them miss a day of school; and a Florida holiday would not be considered if they couldn’t afford it during the school holidays; after all Florida is not mandatory.
So where do you draw the line? 1 day?, 1 week?, 1 month?, a year? It appears you think the school/education authority/government are not entitled to an input – presumably because all parents know what’s best for their offspring.
Well you all have made your decisions and that is between you and the school authorities. However it does sound disingenuous to blame the Government for making decisions that surely everyone appreciates have been made in the best interests of the child and the other children in the class. What other possible reason could the Government have for making such a law?
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KevinT
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Status: offline | Posted - 18 Sep 2006 : 22:51:43
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Originally posted by KevinT
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Originally posted by Cruella DeVilla
I was going to suggest Manchester Kev but I see it has been mentioned. I get the Newcastle Liverpool train when I go to Manchester airport from York almost on a weekly basis and it is usualy full of Geordies going to Manchester airport. The prices are just so good from Manchester these days. Although it is a 2 hour plus jourmey for me it is door to door and so convenient. BTW £99 all in if you can fly Thursday
That wasn't you I saw on the York train handing out bottles of Brown Ale and villa flyers was it??
Heee heee if it was me it would be Champagne! I know it's strange but I get a bit embarrased talking to people about the villa, sounds like you are showing off so can confirm it wansnie me as I would be too embarassed to hand out flyers
Don't think the Geordies would be too impressed with the Champagne CDV
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LiesaAnna
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LiesaAnna
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Status: offline | Posted - 19 Sep 2006 : 07:40:27
| we are only taking Lauren out of school for so long because we didnt have a holiday this due, part finances part health, so i will feel guilty as we have taken the children out for 2 weeks before never 3, its a one off, just hope i will be allowed, it will be Laurens first year at senior school, so i have no idea what they will say,
but its about time someone looked at these prices and sorted, its not fair that we have to pay double for going during school holidays, we always used to abide by the rules when we had 6 of them at school,
wish we could fly on thursday, its this coming week we shouldve been going! |
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julieanne
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Status: offline | Posted - 19 Sep 2006 : 08:27:18
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Thanks Mizzy.....we're considering Manchester but have a 77 yr. old travelling with us who finds the 9 hr. direct flight pretty tiring.
Getting from Durham to Manchester might involve overnight stay!
Also considering more reasonable options from Glasgow but will have similar problem. 
Kevin - as you know we are in the North East and nearly always have to fly from Manchester. I have a 77 & 74 year old with me and for the last few years we have decided that it is well worth the money to stay in Manchester over night so that the "oldies" at least get a full night's sleep before the long flight.
But it is a pain - I long for the day when we can get a reasonable flight from Newcastle   |
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wilfy
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Status: offline | Posted - 19 Sep 2006 : 08:55:41
| | I went thru the rigmarole of pricing up one of these eyeline catching prices of £79 from lgw - sfb yesterday. The end price was £204 for a flight on thursday. This is a reasonable price, but what annoyed me was the original baggage allowance. The flight was with ThomasCook which has a 15KG limit 1 piece per person, and an extra 5kg was added in (per person) automagically for £20. Now my Sarah would have trouble going to Florida with a 15kg allowance, so i checked another flight, this time it ended up at £209 with a 20kg allowance, this was with mytravel. |
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ShirleyD
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Status: offline | Posted - 19 Sep 2006 : 11:32:42
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Not sure on that one Robert it may be a "guideline"
My boys school gave them an "Agreed Absence" for 10 days and 1 day as non agreed what ever that means......
At the end of the day if I am going to take my kids on holiday in school time then so be it, what about people who work for companies that shut down at specific times and that is that when it comes to holidays you go when we are closed or you dont go at all.
Maybe teachers and schools should have there "Incept/Inset or whatever they call them" days in holiday time instead of the usual Mondays and Fridays so they get a long weekend then!!
For me there is no discussion to be had, I am the parent, they are my kids and while we are away wherever that is they will always have some element of schoolwork either by keeping a diary or learning about the area we are staying in.
Sorry steps off soap box and relax 3 days to go
Schools still have the discretion to allow up to 10 days authorised absense. That is why the 11th day is unaouthorised. Some schools are stricter than others. In our area, with all the seasonal work at the airport, a lot of families are not allowed to take leave in the summer months.
I used to take mine out of junior school, but they hardly ever had a day off ill and the head would ask them to do a diary. I would get the atlas out so they could see where they were off too! |
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LiesaAnna
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Status: offline | Posted - 19 Sep 2006 : 14:22:00
| | my daughter hardly ever has time off for any reason so i think it will be ok for once, am glad im not a villa owner at times, it must be very difficult getting the time off often enough to keep tabs on your homes, |
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KevinT
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Status: offline | Posted - 19 Sep 2006 : 14:54:27
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Kevin, what if I served it with pease pudding? A good friend of mine who happens to be a Geordie introduced me to that treat a few years ago!
CDV,
Ham & Pease pudding stotties + broon ale and they'll be be eating out of your hand (figuratively speaking of course!!)
Julie,
Yeah, we've been here before haven't we? And just when I thought we were starting to get a reasonable deal from NCL too!!
Wilfy,
Mine has a struggle with the 20 Kg limit. we're speaking of one who
only a year ago had to pay £15 excess going out from NCL !!
Liesa,
At least you only got taken on board at Sanford on a stretcher (or was it a wheelchair?) .....I nearly needed one at this end after hearing the price!! |
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freddiehollie
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Status: offline | Posted - 19 Sep 2006 : 18:12:57
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Hear Hear Millie. As Homer said there your kids so it should be up to you to decide whats right for them. Not some faceless beurocrat. . Why should we get told off by schools/goverment,or whoever, about our actions with our kids due to WORK!! commitments, not fitting in with school terms. School holidays are long enough as it is without taking extra days for teacher training or inset days over & above. If the school can do that to us, we will fit our holidays round our work & not them. We work very hard to provide for our family, so they are not going to stop us enjoying a few weeks away as a family. Come the revolution!!! Sorry I'm on my soap box, but when you look whats going on in the country/world it seems very insignificant to punish a parent for taking a child on holiday.
You must be joking if you think it should be up to the parents to decide when kids attend school.
Some parents would happily not let their kids attend school at all – have them working on the rag and bone cart at twelve - cos that was good enough for them and their parents. Others would just let their kids stay at home – cos they don’t like school.
Others would not dream of having them miss a day of school; and a Florida holiday would not be considered if they couldn’t afford it during the school holidays; after all Florida is not mandatory.
So where do you draw the line? 1 day?, 1 week?, 1 month?, a year? It appears you think the school/education authority/government are not entitled to an input – presumably because all parents know what’s best for their offspring.
Well you all have made your decisions and that is between you and the school authorities. However it does sound disingenuous to blame the Government for making decisions that surely everyone appreciates have been made in the best interests of the child and the other children in the class. What other possible reason could the Government have for making such a law?
Hi Robert. I think you missed my point, I think parents that don't bother about their children's schooling (or lack of) will not bother whatever. If they play truant, could they care? probably not!! You seem quite cynical "rag & bone cart " whats all that about? I would suggest that all the people who have discussed this topic are great parents who love their kids and would NOT!! abuse the system. So why should they be made to feel like criminals for having a few days holiday. Of course the goverment is ALWAYS!! right as we all know. I also think most people on this forum wish Florida was mandatory
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LiesaAnna
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Status: offline | Posted - 19 Sep 2006 : 18:24:13
| | i know there are some out there that dont care about the childrens schooling and wouldnt care whether they ever went or not, unless of course they are threatened with inprisonment, i feel bad that im taking my daughter out of school during term time, but thats the point really, we cant afford to go for 3 weeks in the holidays its to expensive!!! 2 weeks is really expensive also but sometimes we just have to do whats right for us |
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