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janice

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Posted - 20 Aug 2006 :  02:21:23 Show Profile Send janice a Direct Message  Reply with Quote
Hi,

Friends of mine visited the USA last year on the Visa Waiver Form, on their departure (Boston to Toronto, then on to England), the stub of the I94 form was not taken from them when leaving the USA. They only discovered it was still in their passports when they were travelling to Cyprus this year. What, if anything, should they do about this? Can they inform US immigration of this as they have read that it may cause problems if they want to return to the USA again? Any info would be gratefully received, Thanks.

Jan.
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blott

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Posted - 20 Aug 2006 :  06:04:06 Show Profile Reply with Quote
Your friends need to follow the instructions here relating to this in order to avoid any potential problems when they visit the USA again. http://london.usembassy.gov/dhs/cbp/i94.html

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andrewandcarole

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Posted - 20 Aug 2006 :  09:20:57 Show Profile Send andrewandcarole a Direct Message  Reply with Quote
Jan

Blott is spot on - and your friends really do need to do it.

I have known it happen to a couple of people - and as long as they follow the procedure and return it your friends will be fine. Otherwise they are likely to be refused entry into the USA next time.

Carole

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Posted - 20 Aug 2006 :  09:59:17 Show Profile Send mizzy a Direct Message  Reply with Quote
can i just ask when you say stub

is this the green strip that they stapled into my passport or is this something else?

i still have green strips in my passport about 1" wide by 4" long are these what you're talking about because if so i still have these in my passport too

Mizzy

Edited by - mizzy on 20 Aug 2006 09:59:47
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steph_goodrum

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Mizzy if they are just the perforated strips then you are fine but if they have any information on then they should be returned as per instructions , as they are the socondary proof of you exitting the country. At least noe passports are swiped there is also further proof but prior they were the ONLY way to prove you hadn't overstayed a visa or waiver entry time.

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mizzy

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Posted - 20 Aug 2006 :  10:31:03 Show Profile Send mizzy a Direct Message  Reply with Quote
thanks Steph

i think they are just perforated strips but i cannot remember a passport being swiped, where is this usually done?, we checked our bags in at dtd

i will get my husband to get the passports out of our safe box to double check just in case

Mizzy
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Southsider

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Posted - 20 Aug 2006 :  12:02:33 Show Profile Send Southsider a Direct Message  Reply with Quote
This happened to us on one of our visits and we just left them in our Passports.
On our next visit, the immigration guy just took them out and stapled in the new ones, it did not cause any problems at all.

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blott

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quote:
Originally posted by Southsider
This happened to us on one of our visits and we just left them in our Passports.
On our next visit, the immigration guy just took them out and stapled in the new ones, it did not cause any problems at all.
This is not something I'd recommend as I think US Immigration are quite hot on this now that they have increased their security.

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steph_goodrum

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We foudn when we checked in at Downtonw Disney our form wasn't taken (obviously as we still had the rest of the day before our flight and therefore needed to keep it as proof if asked), we had to remember to hand them in at the gate before we boarded.

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andrewandcarole

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Posted - 20 Aug 2006 :  13:38:32 Show Profile Send andrewandcarole a Direct Message  Reply with Quote
I'm with Blott on this - I wouldn't chance it! How awful to arrive at immigration and be put on the next plane home. OK - worst case scenario - but it could happen.
Then you would never be able to answer truthfully on the visa waiver form that you had never been refused entry to the USA........

Not worth the risk - get it sorted!

Carole


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floridageoff

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Posted - 20 Aug 2006 :  13:46:23 Show Profile Send floridageoff a Direct Message  Reply with Quote
This happened to us quite a few years agp and we were advised to send the green cards to the US Embassy in London. It would appear from the link in Blott's post that they should be now sent back to the US. We have never had a problem since and have travelled many times to and from the states. Definitely tell your friends to sort it before they travel back to the US. It would be awful for them if they were denied entry.

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janice

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Posted - 20 Aug 2006 :  15:14:49 Show Profile Send janice a Direct Message  Reply with Quote
Thank you so much for all your replies on this matter. I will do this for them to make sure they have no set backs in the future. They are both in their 60s and I have just managed to get them to travel further afield in the last year or two so I would hate it to end now with a refusal to enter the USA, when they love it so much. Once again thank you, I knew I would get the right advice.

Jan.
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dolphinv

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Posted - 20 Aug 2006 :  17:19:30 Show Profile Send dolphinv a Direct Message  Reply with Quote
We just returned via Newark and as well as handing our green slip at the gate we had to "check out" of the USA with new computor terminals near gate 90. IT scans your passport, takes copy of finger prints and takes digital photo then issues a receipt from homeland security. Its the first time I have seen this in the airport, is it put in elsewhere too?

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T2M

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Posted - 20 Aug 2006 :  17:58:08 Show Profile Send T2M a Direct Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dolphinv
We just returned via Newark and as well as handing our green slip at the gate we had to "check out" of the USA with new computor terminals near gate 90. IT scans your passport, takes copy of finger prints and takes digital photo then issues a receipt from homeland security. Its the first time I have seen this in the airport, is it put in elsewhere too?



Not be long before we are all bar-coded! and if they do just don't get to close to the scanner in tesco's you may not be worth as much as you thought
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chrizzy100

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Posted - 20 Aug 2006 :  19:13:20 Show Profile Send chrizzy100 a Direct Message  Reply with Quote
Funny enough my friend tattoos barcodes on people with blood problems and HIV etc...it easier for hospitals to get info on people who may need different care...He is one of the few people who can tat people who have HIV with this info...its done in hospital...
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karenhaworth

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Posted - 20 Aug 2006 :  20:32:28 Show Profile Send karenhaworth a Direct Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by dolphinv
We just returned via Newark and as well as handing our green slip at the gate we had to "check out" of the USA with new computor terminals near gate 90. IT scans your passport, takes copy of finger prints and takes digital photo then issues a receipt from homeland security. Its the first time I have seen this in the airport, is it put in elsewhere too?



Make sure you do not leave the receipt in your passport when you next return. We had this done a couple of years ago at Atlanta I think and it had been in our passports ever since. We have been in and out of the US about 6 times since then. However about 2 Months ago we crossed from BC to Washington State and the officer at the Immigration gave us a right telling off for keeping it and demanded that we hand it in

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Michelle

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Posted - 20 Aug 2006 :  23:46:17 Show Profile Send Michelle a Direct Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by steph_goodrum
We foudn when we checked in at Downtonw Disney our form wasn't taken (obviously as we still had the rest of the day before our flight and therefore needed to keep it as proof if asked), we had to remember to hand them in at the gate before we boarded.



When we checked in at Down Town Disney Friday 18th they actually did take the white stub from our Passports, and our flight was not until 8.40pm.

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steph_goodrum

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Michelle and Geoff
If your stub was white I am guessing you have a Visa? This may be why they took it or it may just be now procedure. We travel on Visa waiver so of course there is nothing in our passport other than the emtry stamp and gree stub. We go this week so we'll find out in a few weeks if they take ours when we check in at Downtown Disney.

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luckylady

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Posted - 21 Aug 2006 :  10:35:04 Show Profile Send luckylady a Direct Message  Reply with Quote
Please sort this problem out before you go back.
Same happened to us only we didn't realise until we arrive back in Orlando
The immigration officer said according to his records we where still in the US as illegal immigrants ,was very stressful and delayed us for hours.we will never do that
again.

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steph_goodrum

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Posted - 21 Aug 2006 :  15:25:04 Show Profile Send steph_goodrum a Direct Message  Reply with Quote
They were trialling the EXIT program in several airports in the US a while back and were supposed to be rolling it out on a greater scale but dont know how far it has gone.

On a similar vein has anybody registered for the IRIS programme available from certain airports in UK and does it really make reentry to the UK quicker? I didnt realise it was available at Heathrow last time we flew. Cant do it this time as its only available at Gatwick North and we fly from South Terminal (it's beyond security so you can only register when you are flying out from there).

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Michelle

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Posted - 21 Aug 2006 :  15:27:05 Show Profile Send Michelle a Direct Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by steph_goodrum
Michelle and Geoff
If your stub was white I am guessing you have a Visa? This may be why they took it or it may just be now procedure. We travel on Visa waiver so of course there is nothing in our passport other than the emtry stamp and gree stub. We go this week so we'll find out in a few weeks if they take ours when we check in at Downtown Disney.



Hi Steph, yes we do have a visa, so will be interesting to see if they take out the white stub when you check in at DownTown Disney.

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