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Nostromo

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Posted - 01 Feb 2005 :  15:33:30 Show Profile Send Nostromo a Direct Message  Reply with Quote
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I don't think I would put TV high on the list for not moving.......you're coming over to start a new life.....not to plant yourself infront of the box.....I find I use the TV because I'm stuck in my home some of the winter time......The big thing to think about is....would you have a better life in the USA......not the same one but with a lot more sun......I have to answer yes...even with all the troubles we have had here......we have done well.....



Well, it is certainly not a big thing, but let us be honest. All of us do spend a few hours in frontt of the 'idiot box'. In our case, we hardly watch any TV now because of pressure of work (and OV forums ) but if we do succeed in retiring to the US, then we probably will see more of it - in which case, it does become an issue.

As for your question, "would you have a better life in the USA", it all depends on one's definition of a 'better life'. I would answer that question as 'NO'. Even though I love the sun and hate the british weather, I feel there are more important things in life (and I'm not talking about TV )

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chrizzy100

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We maybe moving to FL in around 18 months....I would not of liked to have moved to FL straight from England......I'm sure with all the troubles we've had since moving over ....we would of left the USA by now.....I miss the England I left behind.....but after my daughter spent a few months back there last year.....I know I would not be going back to the same life......I don't think you notice how much a country changes until you move away....



Stay where you are Chrizzy (in the States that is), I would if I were you




I can't see us going back......my husbands job had gone in the UK.....and where we lived he would of been out of work for a very long time......so we would of had to move away.......so if you're going to move do a big move I say.....
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I don't think I would put TV high on the list for not moving.......you're coming over to start a new life.....not to plant yourself infront of the box.....I find I use the TV because I'm stuck in my home some of the winter time......The big thing to think about is....would you have a better life in the USA......not the same one but with a lot more sun......I have to answer yes...even with all the troubles we have had here......we have done well.....



Well, it is certainly not a big thing, but let us be honest. All of us do spend a few hours in frontt of the 'idiot box'. In our case, we hardly watch any TV now because of pressure of work (and OV forums ) but if we do succeed in retiring to the US, then we probably will see more of it - in which case, it does become an issue.

As for your question, "would you have a better life in the USA", it all depends on one's definition of a 'better life'. I would answer that question as 'NO'. Even though I love the sun and hate the british weather, I feel there are more important things in life (and I'm not talking about TV )



You can always find something good for those odd few hours....we have on demand.....so we can watch shows with no ads.......also some really good films......you can start and stop the shows when you like.....so I find that fills in my spare time really well.......and its all free....my idea of a better life is still having my home and a job....both lost in the UK with little hope of getting back......we were just lucky my husbands job ended and the job in the USA came up.....within 5 years we own one home outright.....most of the second...I now feel we have enough money behind us to do OK in the USA from now on.......that if my husbands job now goes....which I can't see happening now.....we can start up on our own.....have a more quiet life letting our kids work for us......and having more time to travel....or do the things we want.....something that would never have happen in a 100 years for us in the UK.....
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Ray&Sarah

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I put "would have to think about it" as although I love Florida I am not sure I would want to live there.

Sarah

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Posted - 01 Feb 2005 :  17:13:39 Show Profile Send Nostromo a Direct Message  Reply with Quote
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I now feel we have enough money behind us to do OK in the USA from now on.......that if my husbands job now goes....which I can't see happening now.....we can start up on our own.....have a more quiet life letting our kids work for us......and having more time to travel....or do the things we want.....something that would never have happen in a 100 years for us in the UK.....



I accept that your situation is very different from mine, but I cannot compare my situation with my old school chum from India. Both went into medicine, but after qualification, he opted to try his luck in the US while I chose to come to the UK. 20 years down the line, he is working in New York and earning almost 5 times as much as I do, and yet would give anything to switch places with me. He finds the job excessively stressful and can barely squeeze in 2 weeks of holiday each year. I have been to more places in the USA than he has! So, between us, I have to say that I, living in the UK, find more time to do what I want than my friend back there ever would (for example, he would never find time to play in the OV Forums!).

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chrizzy100

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Originally posted by lal
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Originally posted by Nostromo
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Originally posted by chrizzy100[br
I now feel we have enough money behind us to do OK in the USA from now on.......that if my husbands job now goes....which I can't see happening now.....we can start up on our own.....have a more quiet life letting our kids work for us......and having more time to travel....or do the things we want.....something that would never have happen in a 100 years for us in the UK.....



I accept that your situation is very different from mine, but I cannot compare my situation with my old school chum from India. Both went into medicine, but after qualification, he opted to try his luck in the US while I chose to come to the UK. 20 years down the line, he is working in New York and earning almost 5 times as much as I do, and yet would give anything to switch places with me. He finds the job excessively stressful and can barely squeeze in 2 weeks of holiday each year. I have been to more places in the USA than he has! So, between us, I have to say that I, living in the UK, find more time to do what I want than my friend back there ever would (for example, he would never find time to play in the OV Forums!).



I agree with you about holidays Nostromo, we do alot of work in the US and our clients are always amazed at the amount of holidays we take - 4 weeks in August!!!



We are lucky with holiday time...hubby gets 5 weeks....plus US holidays....about 7 days I think.......plus 3 anytime days.....plus time off to catch the plane to FL early........
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Thats a good amount of holidays for someone working in the US Chrizzy. Ray works with a number of Americans and they don't get anywhere near that amount of time, although they are free to take "unpaid" holidays.

Sarah

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Thats a good amount of holidays for someone working in the US Chrizzy. Ray works with a number of Americans and they don't get anywhere near that amount of time, although they are free to take "unpaid" holidays.



Sure, but they risk losing their job if they did that! Our relative living in Martinez near San Francisco once got stuck in India for 4 extra days due to unavoidable personal reasons. He was on tenterhooks till he reported back at his job and told us later that it was not beyond the realms of probability that he could have been replaced during his AWOL period!

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Thats a good amount of holidays for someone working in the US Chrizzy. Ray works with a number of Americans and they don't get anywhere near that amount of time, although they are free to take "unpaid" holidays.



Sure, but they risk losing their job if they did that! Our relative living in Martinez near San Francisco once got stuck in India for 4 extra days due to unavoidable personal reasons. He was on tenterhooks till he reported back at his job and told us later that it was not beyond the realms of probability that he could have been replaced during his AWOL period!



That must have been a bit hairy for him.

Ray says he has learnt to appreciate how much time off he does get with pay since spending such alot of time in the US for work.
That is until he goes to one of the factories in Europe, they seem to get more.

Sarah

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chrizzy100

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Thats a good amount of holidays for someone working in the US Chrizzy. Ray works with a number of Americans and they don't get anywhere near that amount of time, although they are free to take "unpaid" holidays.



They asked how many weeks he had in the UK and matched it.....which was four weeks....five days are paid sick....which he can have as holiday if not used.....if he goes in and gets sent home that does not count....so he always goes in.......they always send him home......

Edited by - chrizzy100 on 01 Feb 2005 19:23:24
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moodyvilla

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Think the states is great but don't know if I could live there. There are so many things that would wind me up. Also it all seems a bit false and I think that would start to wear a bit thin after time.

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ringwood1

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Went for other as both Keith and I love Florida and enjoy the way of life, but as both children are still in school - and will be for sometime - we wouldn't want to disrupt them. I would like a second home, probably on the Gulf Coast but this is something that we probably won't be able to afford for sometime, maybe when we retire. Although if we ever get £1 = $2.40 we will get a second mortgage and buy a villa of our own.

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Nostromo

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I do admit that the US is great for a tourist with so many varied attractions. I think foreigners like us can appreciate and enjoy those things more with our occasional visits than the Americans themselves. I am surpirsed by the "What's the big deal?" response elicited by some of my American acquaintances to things in their own country which I thought were great. I guess they were too preoccupied with other things - maybe life's stresses - to notice their own backyard. That's what convinced me that the US is a great place for a tourist but not necessarily to live permanently.

Perhaps that is UK's strength; the BASIC things in life are reasonably well catered for and one feels better equipped to handle an unexpected crisis here than anywhere else.

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I am with John on this one, I would never want to move permanently to the US although might be tempted to go for a limited time say 2 or 3 years if my husbands job were to take him there. I still believe we view life in the US and particularly Florida through the eyes of a tourist ie Rose coloured glasses and I admire those people who have made a life out there I'm sure they will tell you it isn't all beer and skittles!!!
Ideally I would like not to be tied to work so that I could go for longer periods of time, but if I don't work I don't have the money to travel so it's a vicious circle
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I do admit that the US is great for a tourist with so many varied attractions. I think foreigners like us can appreciate and enjoy those things more with our occasional visits than the Americans themselves. I am surpirsed by the "What's the big deal?" response elicited by some of my American acquaintances to things in their own country which I thought were great. I guess they were too preoccupied with other things - maybe life's stresses - to notice their own backyard. That's what convinced me that the US is a great place for a tourist but not necessarily to live permanently.

Perhaps that is UK's strength; the BASIC things in life are reasonably well catered for and one feels better equipped to handle an unexpected crisis here than anywhere else.


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julieanne

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Posted - 02 Feb 2005 :  10:06:43 Show Profile Send julieanne a Direct Message  Reply with Quote
Think we all have to agree to disagree on this one - it really is a personal choice.

As I said before there is little hope of me ever having to make such a choice - I just dream of being able to spend longer holidays there


But I love to hear from the likes of Chrizzy, Esprit and the other "Brits" who have made a successful life for themselves out there. It's good to know it can be done.

Julie
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Nostromo

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Think we all have to agree to disagree on this one - it really is a personal choice.



Of course it is personal choice and you'll have millions of Americans and maybe many Brits agreeing with you.

What I meant was that I feel secure with the indefinable "backbone" feeling that living in the UK gives me...a sort of something always being there to fall back upon should things go wrong. My wife, who has lived and worked in the USA in the past, agrees with me and would never consider settling there.

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chrizzy100

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I still have the UK to fall back on....a house and family there...and I have the chance to live the American dream......when you move you go though a lot of things.....the first few years are just great that is if you've done your homework....then things that you thought you'd left behind in the UK catches up with you....and you start to think have I done the right thing......then for most people it all falls back into place and you know that you were right....until you have lived here for 3-4 years plus knowing that the USA could be your home always.....you can't really judge what living here is like......not by holidaying here....not by working here for a few years.....it just gives you a tiny look at a bigger picture.....the USA and England both have different faults.....and a lot of the same ones......I think both Julie and I like to warn people of the downside of moving so that they can make the move with their eyes wide open....America is a beauiful place ......I live in a part of it that has no crime to speak of....that is clean....and full of people that help each other out....I'm not sure I can say the same for FL.......but its the next place on my list to live....so I feel lucky that I can just pack up and go there......there is no really difference in everyday living in both countries when you came down to it.....my mum nearly died because healthcare was to slow in coming in the UK..after paying into it for years she had to payout herself to get a chance to live.......and people die here because they have no healthcare...its all swings and roundabouts......and down to where you live in any given country at the time.......I go to a lot of ex pet groups.....so I know a lot of people have gone through the same feelings I have....but its worth taking the chance too be able to choose where you live....and with all my ups and downs and fears and if I was very honest..I would not go back to the UK if you paid me a million pounds a year......I keep saying I will when I'm old but I can't see it happening.....I really love the USA.....I feel so lucky to be here.....knowning that thousands and thousands of Brits would love to be in my shoes...I don't see the USA through rose coloured glasses.......and I don't see the UK as a place that was so bad that I just had to leave it...you only live once so if you can do something different do it.....thats my 2 cents....
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OK, I'll take a chance and say what I really feel about the difference between living in the UK and the US; it will be probably edited, but here goes: I think it is an old tendency among the British to rise to the occasion when the chips are really down. It is the opposite in America; you feel great as long as things are going smoothly, but if they start to go wrong...it is usually everyone for himself or herself. It might sound like a generalisation, but there IS some truth in this.

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Ray&Sarah

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We have considered trying to move to the US on a couple of occasions, Ray may get the chance to be sponsored by his company for a job at one of their factories over there. He would love to go, I am unsure but our boys are certain, they want to remain here in the Uk.

Sarah

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Cruella DeVilla

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I just wonder if a truer representation of this thread would be for those actually able to go i.e no children, family, jobs etc tying them to the UK, who would actually make the move stateside?

CDV

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